Walking the volunteer walk

| July 22nd, 2010

This afternoon on the day the Government launched the National Citizen Service, Francis Maude, Minister for the Cabinet Office, was interviewed on Radio 4′s PM programme by broadcaster Eddie Mair.

May be Francis Maude was expecting the same lacklustre questions that Gavin Esler had put to him earlier in the week when Newsnight did its much criticised feature on the Big Society. He obviously hadn’t banked on Eddie Mair. Anyone who’s followed his broadcasting career knows the guy’s not averse to throwing the odd googly question into his interviews. And so it was that we heard the following exchange (hear original here [via an AudioBoo from Alison Charlton]):

Eddie Mair (Radio 4) [42m:52s]: And what volunteering do you do?

Francis Maude (Minister for the Cabinet Office): I do… golly, what do I do? Umm, a whole load of things. I’m involved in my local church. Um, gosh, that’s a really unfair question cold. But actually the point is…

Eddie Mair: I think that given we’re talking about volunteering and how important it is, I thought you might be able to tell me. And not least because in your manifesto it says quote: “Our ambition is for every adult in the country to be a member of an active neighbourhood group.”

Francis Maude: Err, well I’m involved in things in my local community… Well, MPs spend their time involved with voluntary groups, umm…

Eddie Mair: Well that’s part of your job, you get paid for that. What else do you do?

Francis Maude: Well, we do it seven days a week kind of thing, so… Well, I do various things. It’s a great question to err… drop on me err… and if I had time to think about it… my point actually is that people, most people in their lives are doing things that you could define as volunteering with a capital ‘V’ but which are actually just doing things that support their neighbourhoods, support their neighbours, and be a part of… an active citizen, in an active community.

Eddie Mair: Understood, thank you very much for joining us, the Cabinet Office Minister Francis Maude.

I’m posting it here not just because it was a rare example of an interview that cut through the normally poised narrative and lofty rhetoric that politicians are so used to dishing out. I’m more interested in it because it helps to flush out the real essence of volunteering- even if it did so kind of by accident.

Volunteering is not just about doing things, about actions. If it was it would be very straightforward. Volunteering is about values, it’s how we express who we are as people. It’s more than just the sum of it’s parts. Volunteering’s not just a verb, it’s a noun. On an individual level, it can become part of our identity. On a social level, it can become part of our culture.

This interview caught Francis Maude on the hop because I think it showed that, he at least, has so far only thought about volunteering as a thing you do (or you don’t ;-) ). Not as something you are.

If this Government wants to make volunteering front and centre of it’s policy agenda through the Big Society, it’s got to understand that volunteering is empty rhetoric, unless it’s backed up by a genuine and personal belief in the values that make volunteering worth so much. At the same time, it can only work as a policy if the people (us) encouraged to volunteer, believe in the value of the volunteering they do. Not simply go through the motions because it’s part of a universal programme that has to be done.

That said, I thought the most revealing part of the whole interview came right at the end. Francis Maude was noticeably trying to get back into his stride when he said:

…most people in their lives are doing things that you could define as volunteering with a capital ‘V’ but which are actually just doing things that support their neighbourhoods…

This sounded like he was saying that volunteering is really nothing more than neighbourliness. It’s what we all do, in the course of our normal everyday lives. Maybe Maude said this in his attempt to suggest that he actually ‘volunteered’ in as far as he was a good neighbour, an active citizen as an MP seven days a week.

But I think he accidentally put his finger on the confusion that exists in how we value volunteering. Something that the idea of the Big Society has not fully reckoned with up till now.

Unlike any kind of impersonal commodity or transacted service which declines in exchange value the more there is of it; it is the very abundance of volunteering which is its value. It’s because volunteering is something personal we can all do that’s the basis for its value. The trick, though, is that we can only realise that value when it influences who we are, not just what we do.

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  • http://twitter.com/juliandobson julian dobson

    Very perceptive post, thank you. I’d define volunteering as the support you freely give to others without any expectation of return – whether or not that’s done in the context of a voluntary or community organisation. And there’s a lot more of it around than we imagine.

    I think if the idea of the Big Society is to become something meaningful it needs to acknowledge and value a very broad range of activity – as I suggested here.

  • paddaniels

    Thanks Julian. I agree with you definition of volunteering. I think a lot of what comes under the banner of volunteering can be summed up as a form of ‘giving’. I’m really interested in exploring the notion of giving and the contribution acts of giving can make to social change and improvements. I think the metaphor of the giving economy or the gift economy is really interesting and can shine light on what volunteering can offer. Certainly interested in exploring this further in the context of the Big Society policy debate.

  • http://twitter.com/rmlondon Richard McKeever

    Really interesting post. The idea that a “volunteer” is something you are not just something you do, led to us at Community Links in a
    recent publication

    to use the term “Willing Citizen” to describe the range of individual everyday behaviors on a spectrum from buying FairTrade produce, and participating in community activities to more familiar volunteering like painting a youth centre.
    Crucially these actions can be carried out in any part of your life and in paid or unpaid work. It is important to explore – and articulate – the values that motivate people to engage in supporting others, which is why through our Chain Reaction Network we co-designed a

    statement of principles
    outlining what may underpin our vision of the good society. A statement of values provides a starting point to evaluate the shape and extent of any engagement in any Big Society branded initiative.

  • http://djcronin.blogspot.com/ DJ Cronin

    MMMMm

    Here’s perhaps a neutral perspective coming as it is from the other side of the globe and from someone who is not attuned to the politics of politics in the UK! It’s been awhile since I lived there!
    I am trying to discern what aspect of this post gave birth to an uneasy feeling within.
    Was it my impression that the interviewer was being a little smart and sanctimonious?
    Are we saying now that in order to demonstrate your value in volunteerism that you need to volunteer yourself?
    I believe one can demonstrate value for volunteerism in other ways?
    Furthermore I believe we need to engage more with all stakeholders rather than take the higher ground and alienate people in the long run
    Will it soon be a prerequisite for a volunteer manager to be a volunteer too? Now there’s a question!
    Just my thoughts

  • paddaniels

    Hi DJ thanks for the comment. I think my point was to try to go beyond my first reaction that it weakens the strength of a political message about the importance of volunteering, if the politician doing the talking doesn’t actually volunteer themselves. In effect, volunteering is not just about warm words, it’s about action.

    When I thought about it more, it was interesting because it demonstrated this separation between seeing volunteering as simply something we do, and volunteering as a space in our lives where we express something about who we are. Of course, most volunteering is a mixture of us doing something, and us having a chance to explore and express who we are. For example, if I volunteer to help clean a local river, on one level it’s just about getting your hands dirty and clearing out the rubbish. But I think we miss the real value of volunteering if we present it simply in this way. The reason I’m interested in this task may also have something to do with my beliefs and values about the importance I attach to looking after the environment. In this way volunteering’s not just a means to an end, it’s also an end in itself.

    Coming back to Francis Maude’s interview, what was interesting was that he started off trying to respond to the question about his own volunteering by scrabbling around in his mind thinking of things he did. When he couldn’t think of anything, he switched to this latter version of volunteering talking about values such as neighbourliness and about it being who we are. He seemed to hint that in as far as he was a good neighbour, he was also a volunteer.

    For me the interview demonstrated that we switch between these two different ways of expressing the importance of volunteering, yet we’re rarely conscious of this. Certainly, Francis Maude didn’t seem to be, or he wouldn’t have been stuck for words.

  • paddaniels

    On cue- here’s the PR about the cabinet and the volunteering they do: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/9094053.stm

  • http://www.facebook.com/alex.andreou Alex Andreou

    Isn’t there an additional danger that the whole BS fiasco will hurt volunteering in general? I do not want my work in the community to be used as a Tory political victory… Full explanation here: http://tinyurl.com/6c9bdt8